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EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby yerzmyey on Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:23 pm

Hi there.

I found pretty fine game on the Net.
I converted it into WAV ( http://yerzmyey.republika.pl/sq.zip ) and load on my ZX81.
And I found the *ever time* it's broken. Line 120 is changed: PRINT commad dissapears and I get some "P" (inverse) letter instead.
Of course it can be easily fixed and then I can play the game but it's kinda ennoying.
I tested this WAV on an emul (EO handles WAVs) and......... it works OK! Very weird. Can anybody say anything about it?
Doesn't look like TAPE LOADING ERROR, as the error is *always* the same and at last - the game starts and run normally (until it encounter broken line 120).

Any ideas?
Have a nice weekend,
Yerz
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"MONOCHROME" - a NEW free paper/PDF magazine about ZX81: http://tiny.pl/8mmh
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Re: EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby yerzmyey on Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:22 pm

...anybody was able to check this game out on the real hardware?
Do You have the same result maybe..?
"FERENGI" - an arcade game for ZX81: http://hooyprogram.republika.pl/ferengi_zx81.rar
"MONOCHROME" - a NEW free paper/PDF magazine about ZX81: http://tiny.pl/8mmh
ZX-81/TS1000/TS1500 COMPETITIONS 2007/2009: http://zx81.republika.pl/
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Re: EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby gus on Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:33 pm

HI yerzmyey !!!

Do the fail shows only in the real hardware ? I do download the game and loaded it on the EO, all works just fine.
Just some curiosity: If I break the porogram, then never can RUN it again, I allways have a 2/200 error... thats because some variables was decleared on the "inmediate mode"

So do you need that I try it on the real hard ?

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Re: EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby yerzmyey on Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:10 pm

I'm afraid so.
I mean - of course just if You have some spare time.
Guys from German forum said it might be because of 2 different ROMs in ZX81.
Old one and the new one (the new is mostly in emulators).
I found also another one game that doesn't work on my ZX81 ( http://forum.tlienhard.com/phpBB3/viewt ... ecb158e3f5 ) - the ball flies only in two direction without end. Very weird regarding the emulator's working: there everything's OK. Hm.
Maybe there are 2 slightly different ZX81 versions indeed...?
"FERENGI" - an arcade game for ZX81: http://hooyprogram.republika.pl/ferengi_zx81.rar
"MONOCHROME" - a NEW free paper/PDF magazine about ZX81: http://tiny.pl/8mmh
ZX-81/TS1000/TS1500 COMPETITIONS 2007/2009: http://zx81.republika.pl/
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Re: EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby sirmorris on Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:03 am

PRINT PEEK 3832

Gives 33 for the 'old' rom and 205 for the 'new' or 'improved' rom.

Track down the old rom and try it in EO, see if it makes a difference!
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Re: EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby yerzmyey on Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:22 am

Hehe, EO and Vb81 give result: 182. :)
"FERENGI" - an arcade game for ZX81: http://hooyprogram.republika.pl/ferengi_zx81.rar
"MONOCHROME" - a NEW free paper/PDF magazine about ZX81: http://tiny.pl/8mmh
ZX-81/TS1000/TS1500 COMPETITIONS 2007/2009: http://zx81.republika.pl/
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Re: EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby sirmorris on Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:17 pm

*CORRECTION*

Oops I should have said 3826 :oops:

Apologies!
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Re: EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby gus on Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:51 pm

mmmm I think that this is not a ROM difference problem... I do check it on EO with 3 different ROMS ZX81.ROM, ZX81A.ROM and ZX81B.ROM. the first ROM reports 203 (OLD ROM) and the second and third reports 33 (NEW VERSION)... but the game works fine in the 3 ROMS...

I need some time in home to test it on the real hard...

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Re: EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby yerzmyey on Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:10 pm

OK, I will test it again now, when the keyboard is fixed. Although I doubt it would cause so strange behaviour. But we will see.
Will let You know.
"FERENGI" - an arcade game for ZX81: http://hooyprogram.republika.pl/ferengi_zx81.rar
"MONOCHROME" - a NEW free paper/PDF magazine about ZX81: http://tiny.pl/8mmh
ZX-81/TS1000/TS1500 COMPETITIONS 2007/2009: http://zx81.republika.pl/
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Re: EMULATOR / Real Hardware - a question

Postby yerzmyey on Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:16 pm

I was wrong.

Somehow, after keyboard's repairing the game loads correctly and works fine.

So I will test now the other one, I mentioned on http://forum.tlienhard.com/phpBB3/viewt ... c05316541e forum about.
"FERENGI" - an arcade game for ZX81: http://hooyprogram.republika.pl/ferengi_zx81.rar
"MONOCHROME" - a NEW free paper/PDF magazine about ZX81: http://tiny.pl/8mmh
ZX-81/TS1000/TS1500 COMPETITIONS 2007/2009: http://zx81.republika.pl/
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